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sebuncle [ 17 янв 2013, 15:38 ]
Заголовок сообщения:  vaio SVE171B11M / mbx 267 / motherboard flooded

Hi ,
a glass of water was spilled on the laptop. I cleaned the motherboard with isopropyl alcohol.
Now when I press the power button, the lights on the fan is running, there is no display, then everything stops after 10 second.
If I press the power button no response I have to unplug and replug the power adapter.
Can you tell me what i have to check ?
Best regards.

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тагансити [ 20 янв 2013, 07:31 ]
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You need to check all Power Supplies (to measure their outs "in voltages") and check all oscillations at all oscillators, replace the CPU and RAM for working parts and reflash the bios (bioses) with programmer (make the backups of original ones first!)...

sebuncle [ 21 янв 2013, 20:40 ]
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Hi , don't find original bios .

тагансити [ 21 янв 2013, 22:03 ]
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sebuncle писал(а):
Hi , don't find original bios .

Not have, sorry...
"vaio SVE171B11M" - Are you sure you do not mistake? Is there other model number at laptop?

sebuncle [ 21 янв 2013, 22:09 ]
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yes you are right sorry I made ​​a mistake it is SVE1711FEW

When I connect the plug I hear a little noise as "tic" , but i can't locate . Is it a short circuit ?

тагансити [ 22 янв 2013, 06:09 ]
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sebuncle писал(а):
yes you are right sorry I made ​​a mistake it is SVE1711FEW...

May be, SVE1711F1EW? :-):
sebuncle писал(а):
When I connect the plug I hear a little noise as "tic" , but i can't locate . Is it a short circuit ?

It is very similar... Try to locate this by oscilloscope: you will see the periodic changes of the voltage on some inductor...
And measure the resistance of the load of the all secondary power supplies (without power on!) by Ohmmeter: you will see the short circuit...
тагансити писал(а):
You need to check all Power Supplies (to measure their outs "in voltages")...

sebuncle [ 22 янв 2013, 06:51 ]
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I have no oscilloscope (I'm beginner). It's hard for me to find the problem I do not have much knowledge.


тагансити писал(а):
And measure the resistance of the load of the all secondary power supplies (without power on!) by Ohmmeter: you will see the short circuit...
тагансити писал(а):
You need to check all Power Supplies (to measure their outs "in voltages")...

can you tell me more please about power supplies


thank you for your help

тагансити [ 22 янв 2013, 07:53 ]
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sebuncle писал(а):
I have no oscilloscope (I'm beginner). It's hard for me to find the problem I do not have much knowledge.
...................................................................
can you tell me more please about power supplies...

It's very difficult for me - I am using the translator for the answering.
Try to found the knowledge at your language by internet...

The repairs laptops is not for amateur, it is professional activity. You will need to purchase the oscilloscope, programmer, infrared soldering station, etc...
Otherwise you will not be able to repair laptops!
Sorry and good luck! :-):

sebuncle [ 22 янв 2013, 12:50 ]
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I'm using translator too i'm french .
I have programmer , jovy RE7500 , hot air station , no oscilloscope...
I wan't to learn , but in France there is not much information .

thank you to try to help me.
Best regards

MSF113 [ 22 янв 2013, 13:11 ]
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Try this steps:
- remove all spares from board
- take tank, glass cleaner liquid, toothbrush
- put the board into tank and fill the liquid - more liquid
- clean board with toothbrush, add more liqiud, clean board with toothbrush. 2-3 steps.
- dry the board on jovy RE7500 - lower heater only. Board temp approx 110-120 grad.

тагансити [ 22 янв 2013, 13:38 ]
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sebuncle писал(а):
...can you tell me more please about power supplies...

The secondary power supplies are all LDO regulators and switching controllers (drivers) that create all the power supply (supply voltages) for all parts of the circuit...
You will check all load resistances by Ohmmeter at the outs of the secondary power supplies (at the pins of electrolitic capasitors at outs) without power on (it is for position a short circuits), and check all load voltages by Voltmeter at the same pins with power on...
You will check all measurements with the schematic. If no schematic, try to use similar schematic from another laptops...

sebuncle [ 22 янв 2013, 16:43 ]
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MSF113 писал(а):
Try this steps:
- remove all spares from board
- take tank, glass cleaner liquid, toothbrush
- put the board into tank and fill the liquid - more liquid
- clean board with toothbrush, add more liqiud, clean board with toothbrush. 2-3 steps.
- dry the board on jovy RE7500 - lower heater only. Board temp approx 110-120 grad.

I have try but nothing change , the little noise is already present when i connect plug.

тагансити писал(а):
sebuncle писал(а):
...can you tell me more please about power supplies...

The secondary power supplies are all LDO regulators and switching controllers (drivers) that create all the power supply (supply voltages) for all parts of the circuit...
You will check all load resistances by Ohmmeter at the outs of the secondary power supplies (at the pins of electrolitic capasitors at outs) without power on (it is for position a short circuits), and check all load voltages by Voltmeter at the same pins with power on...
You will check all measurements with the schematic. If no schematic, try to use similar schematic from another laptops...


I'll try to check all capacitors , i'll hope to find one in short circuit .
I don't have schématic , this motherboard is new.

Thank you for your help
Best regards

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