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karlan
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Заголовок сообщения: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 20 июл 2021, 18:17 |
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Hi, I have a XFX RX580 8GB that shows problem at 400MHz memory speed, all the other memory speeds are ok. I tested with "tserver" with memory speed set by "./agt -mem=...." If I set the speed at 400 (or similar 462.5 or 487.5) the memory tests is FAIL and also if I afterwards test at any other speed without a reboot. If I set the speed at 400 (or similar 462.5 or 487.5) and then I change the speed to any other value without doing any test, all the memory tests fail at any speed. If instead after a reboot I set any other speed (I tried 300, 600, 900, 1000, 1125, 1250, 1375, 1500, 1625, 1750, 2000) the test is PASS So the card has no problem with Furmark because it sets the memory speed at the max value of 2000 but it is unable to start for instance the Radeon software or the Unigine benchmark.
Does anyone know what the problem is and how to fix it? Thanks
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Pandemonium6
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 25 авг 2021, 18:42 |
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Зарегистрирован: 22 июл 2021, 03:06 Наличности на руках: 1,139.72
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Hi, I have exactly the same problem but on CORE, with Asus Rx580, but the difference is that any speed above 400 crashes the card and all voltages go down but only 5V remains and LDO from 12V to 3.3V powering the DIGI+ PWM is present. I don't have idea what is going on. I don't have replacement PWM chip. But I can increase memory speed and the card passes tserver's memfa test. There is a problem with a core clock only. I have written a post some days ago here: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=118167The bios is updated/reflashed to the one taken from techpowerup website and it is rather good now. Both have the same in common, increasing frequency doesn't have effect on voltage and the PWM goes into defensive mode and shuts down everything. Power off is required. I will investigate it, maybe communication is bad between GPU and PWM, maybe PWM is bad or something similar, maybe a resistor somewhere is dad. I already conducted tests on the scope. The duty cycle does not change at all when increasing core frequency and in one moment there is a total freeze.
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karlan
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 26 авг 2021, 19:54 |
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here is a partial datasheet of the A version, it should not be so much different to the B version https://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/do ... erm=IR3567the Voltages are set by the GPU via serial bus, why do you say it is pre-programmed and you cannot replace it? You can buy it Does the voltage of the memory controller change? It is also regulated by the same IR3567B
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Pandemonium6
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 27 авг 2021, 07:00 |
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Зарегистрирован: 22 июл 2021, 03:06 Наличности на руках: 1,139.72
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OK, I tested everything. uP1540 is for RAM 1.5V, a separate VRM. Duty cycle increases between 300 and 2000MHz but voltage is constant 1.510-1.512V. Memories are hotter only during memfa test which passes of course without errors. PWM changes also on the main 6 phase controller, commands are being received, clock and data arrive to the chip properly. In my case GPU 3d test and switching voltage and core frequency kill power of the board without reason. I don't have replacement PWM controller now as a last chance. It just disables itself. Here is a movie: https://gofile.io/d/Lt3bGUScope is in average(16 periods) mode, every VRM looks the same with this leading edge overshot. This is high frequency scope 500MHz so every spike is visible. This is measured on the inductor.. Maybe these leading overshots, spikes trigger some kind of feedback overvoltage protection. Anyway I have a second card with failed memory and I will compare it. It looks like a feedback is taken from each inductor and all transients look the same so it means maybe gate drivers? They are quite hot almost 70'C, all three.
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Pandemonium6
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 27 авг 2021, 10:55 |
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I will gonna make it hehe I have a second identical card and must measure it first later today. Here are points of a serial bus between GPU and PWM for controlling voltage. GPU sends commands to the controller here. Here there is schematic for such similar card with the same controller as mine. Posted after 20 minutes 2 seconds:In both cases, yours and mine it can be dead GPU anyway. People with practice say that this behavior is well known. Sometimes when it happens I see only one phase running and a picture is normal. The second from the top works all other phases are down. This happens every some crashes.
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Pandemonium6
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 27 авг 2021, 11:37 |
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ASP1300 is available on ALI, shouldn't they be preprogrammed, configured by a programmer? People say they don't work, only from a donor boards. Posted after 7 minutes 49 seconds:karlan писал(а): makes me hoping that the issue is the power supply :) Hehe the same as me Who knows what is bad. It hangs to almost complete no voltage. I can't tell what happened because all voltages are off. Only +5V on the left corner and 3v3 LDO are working. All others are gone. There is a chance that this chain of power enable logic gates and transistors is sensitive, something is on the edge of good and bad and it disables the main power chain. It must have been early, just after +5V rail, maybe 5V itself gets blackout when GPU starts... This is the first such half damaged card.
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karlan
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 27 авг 2021, 12:02 |
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well all our controllers are on sales on ali, there should be a way to make them working, there is an IFX programming tool https://www.mouser.de/ProductDetail/Inf ... Os0MIHoA==and software to download The programming tool is expensive but I suppose there should be a much cheaper equivalent on ali, maybe the CH341T
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karlan
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Заголовок сообщения: Re: XFX RX580 8GB with memory speed problem Добавлено: 18 янв 2023, 14:03 |
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Hi, after so a long time I got another RX 580 with damaged GPU so I did the transplantation from the XFX RX 580 to the other one of another brand and the issue happens again, so the problem was definitely in the GPU itself. So the GPU works perfectly with the following memory speeds 300, 600, 900, 1000, 1125, 1250, 1375, 1500, 1625, 1750, 2000 MHz but it doesn't work with memory speed between 360 to ~590 MHz. Since the memory speed configuration belongs to the memory controller it can be surely changed in the BIOS. So I need to modify the BIOS in order to avoid the memory spped between 360 to 590 Mhz, is there anyone that has experience on this?
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